1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,000 In 1948, they were having quite a round of UFO sightings at that time. 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:16,000 And at the time I was back in North Carolina flying in reserve, we had 407s there. 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Changed the designation now to F-47s, fighter. 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 The old jugs we used to call it. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,000 And we were going out to do some flying one Saturday morning. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:30,000 And there was really this taking off on this particular flight. 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,000 We were going to look over the countryside, do a little formation work. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 And that was about it. 9 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 So the boys lined up. 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,000 I was number two in takeoff position. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,000 The other ship took off ahead of me. 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,000 This was approximately nine o'clock in the morning. 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,000 And the ship took off and I cleared the deck. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:57,000 And we were to join up somewhere around 8 to 10,000 feet. 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,000 I had taken off and climbed up to approximately 5 or 6,000 feet. 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 I'm not exactly sure right now, the altitude. 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,000 And the tower called me, or not necessarily called me, 18 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:14,000 called to the three fighters just clearing the area. 19 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:21,000 If they saw anything in the air, such a position from the field, 20 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:25,000 with that I looked up and to my right. 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,000 At approximately, or I would say about a clock, 22 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,000 probably around 1 o'clock or 2 o'clock in position, 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:38,000 1 or 2 o'clock position, I saw a large ball of fire. 24 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,000 That's what it looked like to me anyway. 25 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 As I say, I got the call. 26 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 With that, of course, I immediately started looking around. 27 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,000 I looked up to the right, saw this ball of fire at approximately 2 o'clock. 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:52,000 And with that, I shoved the throttle to the firewall 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 and pulled up in its direction. 30 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,000 I wasn't sure at the moment. 31 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 I sort of blinked my eyes. 32 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 I turned my head for a second. 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:05,000 Then possibly it was the sun reflecting off the canopy of the aircraft. 34 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,000 It was a normal, sunshiney morning. 35 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Visibility was unlimited. 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 Very few scattered clouds. 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,000 I imagine the ceiling at that time was probably somewhere around, 38 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,000 oh, 20, 25,000 feet. 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,000 I say ceiling, any clouds that were in the area were approximately that altitude. 40 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,000 And I pulled up and to my right, 41 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,000 climbing up in the direction. 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 As I pulled up on the nose of the aircraft, 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 this object or ball of fire as it appeared to me 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 moved across in front of me. 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Not necessarily at any rapid rate of speed, 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 nor was it slow, but it moved to my eyesight anyway, 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 moved across in front of me. 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,000 I then sort of over on left wing, still climbing, 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,000 and pulled up toward it. 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:00,000 And with that, as I made my turn to the left and still climbing, 51 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:07,000 I was then approximately, I would say, at about 15,000 feet. 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 Exactly sure the altitude right now. 53 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,000 I know when I started it, I believe I was around 6 or 7,000 feet. 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,000 And I had climbed almost that much more, another 7 or 8,000 feet, 55 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,000 as I started making my turn to the left with that, 56 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,000 the object in a very rapid rate of speed 57 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:31,000 pulled directly up, straight up, and disappeared from view. 58 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:35,000 I mean, it just, it didn't abruptly fade from view, 59 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,000 it just disappeared. 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 I mean, gradually just, sure, you know, 61 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,000 I was, something in your line of vision just goes out of sight. 62 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,000 By that time, as I pulled up then, 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 I know that my last altitude check was around, 64 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,000 I believe, 16,000, 17,000 feet, something were in there. 65 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,000 And of course, I didn't have any oxygen. 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:58,000 I immediately over on a wing and down again, I called the tower. 67 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:03,000 I had made no contact with the tower whatsoever until this point. 68 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,000 I called the tower to tell them that I had seen this object. 69 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,000 They themselves said that they, the man on the tower, 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,000 spotted the object and called the aircraft in the area 71 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 to see whether anyone was having any trouble 72 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 or just what they might have seen. 73 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:24,000 I then came down and called the other aircraft 74 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,000 and asked them if they had seen them. 75 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,000 One of the other pilots said he thought he saw something. 76 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 He wasn't sure, but he did see me 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 pull the cord with my aircraft and started climbing 78 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,000 and he couldn't figure out why. 79 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 We were supposed to meet in a certain area 80 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 and I was going in the opposite direction. 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 I told them what I had seen just briefly, 82 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 I said I spotted something 83 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 and with that the tower operator cut in 84 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 and wanted to come down and make a report. 85 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,000 So I immediately landed and went into operations 86 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 and filed my report. 87 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Oh, I imagine it was some two or three weeks later, 88 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,000 so the people from Washington, 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 I guess they were from Washington where they came from, 90 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,000 came down to talk to me. 91 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,000 As far as any more elaboration on this particular UFO sighting, 92 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,000 and I would have to say that it is UFO, 93 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 it certainly was unidentified. 94 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Another thing is that I did not see any shape whatsoever 95 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,000 to this object. 96 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 I mean, I've heard reports, 97 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 I had heard reports prior to this one, 98 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 I've heard them since, 99 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 but they said that the people seeing them 100 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:34,000 had actually seen a definite shape to the object 101 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:40,000 with possibly a blurred outline of light to it. 102 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:46,000 But in my sighting, there was absolutely no shape to it whatsoever, 103 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,000 other than just a ball. 104 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,000 I would have to say it was round, 105 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,000 a round ball of fire, 106 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,000 not necessarily any brighter in the center 107 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,000 than it was on the outer edge. 108 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 It did fade off on the outer edge. 109 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 The outer edge was not clearly defined. 110 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:10,000 It was hazy as fire, as you know when you see fire burning, 111 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,000 it's not that clearly outlined flame, 112 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,000 it's jagged edges or fuzzy edges, 113 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,000 and that's what there was to this. 114 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,000 There was absolutely no definite outline to it whatsoever. 115 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,000 And as far as moving, when it moved, 116 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,000 it moved in the same shape, it did not leave a tail behind it, 117 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:36,000 nor did it change in shape or size or color 118 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,000 in any manner, shape or form. 119 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,000 And I was fairly sure in my own estimation 120 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,000 that possible runs of the sun reflecting off of the canopy. 121 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:51,000 I don't know, I've had in various maneuvers in an aircraft 122 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,000 with a plexiglass canopy on it. 123 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 I've had the sun glare off of it, 124 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,000 and I always wear sunglasses when I fly, 125 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:06,000 except of course in real cloudy rainy weather, 126 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,000 where you naturally wouldn't need it, 127 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,000 but on both suns and those, 128 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,000 I always wear sunglasses, 129 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,000 and even that I have made turns where the sun, we say, is behind me, 130 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:22,000 and I would make a turn which would cause the sun to reflect off of the canopy of the aircraft, 131 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,000 and I've had it reflect in a streak, 132 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 or just a fly-ish or ball of the sun. 133 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,000 My sunglasses would be diffusing the bright, direct portion of the sunlight, 134 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 and I've used polar glasses, 135 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 but I don't know. 136 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,000 I say I'm not going to sit here and try to say that I know what it was because I don't.